This is my first, very embarrassing draft of what's been churning around in my mind for the last few years. I'm expecting that it will be completely incoherent, illogical and fail to make any kind of coherent point. I'm hoping that some kind folks will suffer their way through it and politely point out the worst mistakes and silliness. In thinking about my personal faith, I have been wondering whether Christianity is scientific, and this leads in a meandering way through how we could have a soul and how the theology of free will and evolution interact. This is a simple enough question, but let me clarify. I'm not asking "are all Christians applying the scientific method to their faith?" (most are not, which is to be expected). Nor "did Christianity have anything to do with the development of science in the western world?" (probably). Not "has the Christian church obstructed scientific progress?" (almost definitely). Nor even "will Christians stop spouting unscientific nonsense in trying to evangelise to others?" (sadly not, I suspect). What I've been puzzling over is -- how do I reconcile what I know of the world through science with what I understand of God and the human condition through the Christian tradition? What new insights does 2000 years of scientific study bring us? There are three ways that religions can coexist with science: 1. Say nothing of any significance, and be so vague as to make no testable prediction. New Age philosophies seem to take this approach, and it seems to me that Hinduism does much the same (although I really don't know enough about it to be sure). 2. Be fundamentalist, and where science conflicts with a religious credo, deny the validity of the science even if it requires extraordinary suspension of disbelief to do so. Islam necessarily does this -- if the Qu'ran is the genuine word of Allah, then any scientific finding conflicting with it is an attack on the religion itself. Thus, most Islamic nations prohibit the teaching of evolution. Denial of the Apollo moon landings happens sometimes as well, as another example. Scarily, it seems that many southern baptist churches are heading down this road. 3. Make falsifiable, testable predictions and be prepared to discover that cherished beliefs might be wrong. In the best cases this might mean a review to correct some mistaken concept, and worst it might throw the whole religion out. This path is, I think, the only valid and legitimate path to take if "religious truth" is not to become an oxymoron. Either Christianity is true -- with the mind-boggling statement that the creator of the universe is personally interested in each and every one of us individually -- or it is not. If it is true, then it must say something of significance which can be measured and quantified, otherwise it is irrelevant superstition. The best I have come up with is that the power of prayer is testable and falsifiable. Prayer should have an effect. At the very least, it should change the one who prays. Looking at the various studies of prayer-supported medical treatment, I would want to see an effect of some kind in a well-designed study. I've garnered opinions and asked pastors and respected theologians about this, and a few comments (paraphrased) have me still thinking about what effect we should see, and under what conditions. - in the first world, where the death of a family breadwinner is not a guaranteed road to suffering and poverty of the remainder of the family, we would expect to see less miraculous healing than in the third world, where such healing would be more likely to create a response of adoration, awe and worship of God. - calling something a double-blind trial will probably be meaningless, since we are trying to measure the presence of an omniscient God who would know the results of any randomisation. Believing that the trial is double-blinded probably indicates a faulty methodology. This is of course, bizarre, and unlike any other medical study, where double-blinded trials are the gold standard. - comparing against a placebo is very, very difficult. Is it the case that two prayers are more effective than a single prayer? Or prayers by two people are more effective than from one? Because without those very dubious assumptions, the "ambient prayer level" for individuals undergoing treatment might have the same effect as the noise+signal of the non-placebo group - it might be the case that performing such a trial without a calling from God to do so might be blasphemous or sinful in some way. (I don't fully understand this comment.) - Perhaps the mean time of recovery from an illness might the same for the prayed-for and non-prayed for groups, but the standard deviations will be different. It is not uncommon for Christians to pray "dear God, heal him or let him die quickly and painlessly". - Christians do have very clear promises from God that he will honour prayers for personal holiness. This should surely be measurable somehow, and saves the complications involved in establishing a reliable experimental theology of miraculous healing. In short summary, we're still trying to decide what effect we would see, but I have found near universal belief that there would be something to see. Amusingly, a careful trial could resolve the predestination vs free-will debate which has divided Christian scholars for centuries, although there is a certain ethical dubiousness in taking a large number of non-Christians and deliberately choosing not to pray for the salvation of some of them! But there are other more subtle questions. For there to be a judgement, a heaven and a hell (although Jehovah's Witnesses and some Anglican theologians would argue against this last one as anything other than a termination-of-existence) there needs to be some continuity of personhood through death. Obviously, the question of "is there a here-after?" is unfalsifiable in itself (except through personal experience, by which time it is too late to report the findings to anyone still alive). What I puzzle over is how this could occur given what we know of brain physiology, and what theological and scientific implications this might have. Personal continuity through death could happen in one of two ways -- perhaps we have an eternal soul, inhabiting a spiritual realm apart from the physical universe; alternatively, perhaps we don't. The latter case is I think the less likely and the harder to make sense of. If the thing that is "me" is nothing but atoms and molecules, with no spiritual component, then my continuity is guided by the laws of the physical universe. Let us be a little bit over-confident and assume that we already know all the relevant fundamental physics determining this, or that if we don't now, we will one day. Then it should be quite possible to run a simulation of myself on a computer. Note that this is not necessarily deterministic -- the Heisenburg uncertainty principle at the very least should introduce enough randomness that the simulation of "me" and the original "me" should both end up thinking different thoughts and responding to stimuli in different ways eventually. So there is a continuity and individuality even without human beings having a direct link into the spiritual realm. Clearly, if it is possible to simulate someone's mental process using technology within the universe, it is all the more possible for God to "snapshot" the state of a person (including collecting the full quantum state, thus side-stepping the Uncertainty principal). So it would certainly be possible for God to take our last conscious moment and reconstruct that to fashion an immortal form for those he loves. I do have several niggles about this: - why reconstruct just the last conscious state? Why not all the "me"s that have ever existed. In my teenage years I was a much more fervent believer (and also sadly even more obnoxious than I am now, much to the disbelief of most recent acquaintances). Would there not be a place in heaven for the "me" that was? Or will be? - what about the senile, the brain-damaged, the grown-insane? If we view them as "broken" then perhaps we could assume that God fixes the breakage during the transformation to the immortal. But now the continuity of personhood changes - presumably intelligence is a feature of our (non-spiritual) personhood, which would be preserved in the creation of any simulation. I find it odd to think that in eternity we would only be as clever as we are now -- not least to think that the same would apply for memory capacity, which would have to get exhausted eventually given an infinite amount of time for things to happen. For these reasons, I think I find it easier to believe that there is a spiritual realm, and that we are citizens of both the physical and the spiritual. This seems more biblical too. Now of course we have the problem of how the physical and spiritual interact. Scientists have tried to perform brain imaging scans of people praying, and during meditation and so forth, and attempted to pinpoint what area of the brain is most active, or most distinctly different during "spiritual" activities. While some findings from this approach would be fascinating, I am expecting this idea will rapidly be discovered to be fundamentally misguided. While I have heard some physicists and philosophers outline the following discussion (usually in regard to understanding free will), I haven't seen anywhere a coherent document that tries to link personhood and spirituality with we know of quantum theory. That is, there is bound to be some nonsense written. Tragically, I suspect my next few paragraphs are unlikely to improve the situation much. There are many different interpretations of quantum physics. For the most part they are equivalent. The following interpretation I found useful when I was first learning about quantum computation. All quantum systems (and that really means everything in the universe) alternate between bursts of quantum operations (where it is normal for a cat to be both alive and dead simultaneously) and observations, where the system collapses down to fewer simultaneous states. Depending on what sort of observation it is, you will probably collapse the system down to just one simple relevant state (e.g. the cat is alive and not even slightly dead). To explain further, I have to use some mathematics unfortunately. Taking poor Schroedinger's cat, who is locked in an unobservable box being both dead and alive, a physicist would write something like this: 0.7071 ¦ cat alive > + -0.7071 ¦ cat dead > The 0.7071 and -0.7071 numbers are known as the amplitudes of the corresponding states. During an observation (e.g. when someone opens the box to see whether cat is alive or dead) the "system" squares each amplitude to get a probability. (Actually it's more complicated than that, but it's close enough). 0.7071*0.7071=0.5 and (-0.7071)*(-0.7071)=0.5 as well. So both the cat being alive and the cat being dead are equally likely things to see. So the "system" randomly picks between the two. It's true to say that currently, there is no scientific understanding of how that randomness works. - It could be that there is a giant list of random numbers written in a giant book somewhere outside of the physical universe, and every time a quantum system is observed, the next random number from the book is consulted to work out which state it should collapse into. - Or there could be some underlying physical process which determines the collapses of systems when they are observed, but we have at this stage no idea how this might operate, nor anything more about it. A God who only controls which way quantum systems collapse might only be a "God-of-the-gaps-in-scientific-thought" but that's more than enough to control the entire destiny of the universe, perform miracles, turn water into wine (it's just a sequence of extremely unlikely state collapses), and so on. Thought and decision making is likely to be some kind of summation of the collapsed states of zillions of tiny quantum systems. That is, weighing up whether or not to cross a busy street is probably "ome process in the brain asking whether more neurons concluded 'go' than 'wait'," Those neurons' outputs are bunches of chemicals sloshing in one direction rather than another, caused by electrical charge gradients, which are ultimately electrons either free from their nuclei or still held captive. Electron release and capture is a quantum affair -- most of the time they would be in a superposition of captured and not captured, with the occasional observation forcing it to collapse randomly into one or the other. Random? God Himself could choose the collapse. What if my citizenship of the spiritual realm gives me control over (some) of the collapses? This is what I (currently) believe to be way things must be. We have a spiritual existence independent of the physical world -- it is not our consciousness, nor our mind, but to some extent it influences both. We make choices, for right or for wrong. Sometimes those choices are purely mechanistic and handled by the physical process in our brain. Occassionally -- perhaps for little more than those decisions where there is a for-good or for-evil decision to make -- our spiritual side can cause the right quantum collapses to occur to make our physical brain process choose what the spiritual realm wants. This means that there is some amount of free will -- and therefore judgement is reasonable. The spiritual side of the senile and deranged may be intact, but simply unable to sufficiently influence the physical sufficiently to cause anything to happen. There is a soul which can persist through death. Of course little in the above discussion could be regarded as scientific, because it says little that could be falsified. But it provides at least a way that we can be both spiritual and physical -- something that has puzzled philosophers for centuries! -- and matches what everyone feels -- that we have some kind of free will to make decisions which is more than just an illusion. There is one final aspect of the interaction between scientific thought and Christianity which I want to explore -- times when scientific thought gives us a deeper insight into the God we worship. I had an experience of this nature when reading Steven Baxter's novelisation of the evolution of humankind on earth. (Appropriately called "Evolution"). Unlike the majority of Christians, I don't think Genesis is meant to be an accurate description of the creation of the world. I believe it might have been written by human hand with that intention, but that they most certainly got it wrong; but the author(s) were probably more intent on contrasting the Creator with the creation and providing a response to the Babylonian philosophies of the day. (I tend to follow the Wesleyan view of the nature of the Bible -- that it is a collection of documents written by human hands about the things that they saw God do (or were told about by others); that the Bible provides enough information about Christianity that one can become a Christian by reading it. Therefore, there is no reason to expect the Bible to be true in every last detail -- mistakes could have occurred in the original writing, the relaying and subsequent translations. But experience has shown us that in spiritual matters the Bible has generally been helpful. This Wesleyan view of scripture is almost tautological -- there is little that one could disagree with -- and is different to (say) the southern baptist or fundamentalist view which is to say that the Bible is the dictated Word of God, and that a perfect God doesn't make mistakes, thus making scripture inerrant. This leads to vast efforts explaining away a tentative value of pi=3, Judas dying simultaneously in two different ways, and Jesus dying at two different times. Perschbacher wrote a magnum opus reconciling these various problems (and many others). The quantity of paper sacrificed in this effort did more to persuade me to the Wesleyan view (the opposite of Perschbacher's) than any amount of spiritual reflection and study on the matter myself!) Getting back to the evolution of humanity, it's worth contemplating that evolution depends heavily on free will and choice. There a few decisions we believe we take more freely than our choice of partner! So while an all-knowing and all-powerful God is quite capable of setting up the initial conditions of the universe and its physical laws so that a planet called Earth orbits a sun called Sol in an outer spiral of a galaxy, some 18 billion years after the beginning of the universe (and could have planned it so that the meteor some 65 million years ago could have struck the Earth), it is not clear to me that a God who allows free will would have chosen also to dictate the path that evolution would take by forcing particularly sets of our ancestors to mate. It seems to me that when Paul says God works all things for good with those that love him, God must have had all the eventual possibilities of life on earth in mind as the universe was created. A few small changes of partner and a few different decisions about what to eat, and perhaps homo sapiens might never have existed. We might have had God come to Earth in the form of some other dominant lifeform ("and if your right tusk doesn't know what you're left tusk is doing"). To the ancients, a God who stood above the sky, ruled the *whole world* and let the rain fall from the sky would have seemed monumentally huge and powerful. Just thinking about it would surely have had them falling to their knees in wonder that such a huge God would be personally interested in them. But several thousand years later, we now know more. God must have waited billions of years for you to be born; God must have known which of the uncountably many different ways that life could have formed was the one that could create the unique creature that is you; God must have watched every quark in every atom in every molecule in every puff of gas in every current in every eddy in every spot in every star in every galaxy in every supercluster across all time and *didn't even need to intervene* to control them all to His ends since He knew what they would all do even before creating the universe. This is the God who watched over tens of thousands of generations of proto-humans waiting patiently until they were able to talk, to wonder about their creator, and to interact with each other. This is the God that didn't even need to shepherd the continents together to form the unique conditions that led to the creation of ancient Mesopotamia. This is the God who chose to become one of the multitude of sentient and intelligent lifeforms that could have been and to be executed by the them. This is the God who can cause every piece of matter in the universe to spontaneously decay in the very next moment, and who asks politely to be acknowledged. Can we do anything other than fall on our knees and say "o my God!" as we learn through science how much greater he must be that we had ever imagined?